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  • TheMalfeasantBladesman
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    #41658 |

    It’s been over a year since Path of War Expanded was released, and there is a great deal of content in this book regarding archetypes and content for pathfinder’s existing classes. However, there are still plenty of things left unmentioned in there.

    At present, the non-full-casting classes which have not yet been given martial discipline support are Cavalier, Gunslinger, Magus, Bloodrager, Hunter, Skald, Slayer, Swashbuckler, Occultist, Medium, Mesmerist, and Spiritualist. I envision that most if not all of these could have interesting martial support options, but I’m wondering if we’ll ever get support for these classes. Could I get an answer on this?

    Jade Ripley
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    It’s been over a year since Path of War Expanded was released, and there is a great deal of content in this book regarding archetypes and content for pathfinder’s existing classes. However, there are still plenty of things left unmentioned in there.

    At present, the non-full-casting classes which have not yet been given martial discipline support are Cavalier, Gunslinger, Magus, Bloodrager, Hunter, Skald, Slayer, Swashbuckler, Occultist, Medium, Mesmerist, and Spiritualist. I envision that most if not all of these could have interesting martial support options, but I’m wondering if we’ll ever get support for these classes. Could I get an answer on this?

    Magus isn’t going to happen. We tried, at length, and it’s just not gonna be a thing. Bloodrager is also unlikely to happen, and much the same can be said for Spiritualist, Mesmerist, and Skald; for the last three, this is a case of them being rather firmly spellcasters, with chassis that neither encourage initiating nor particularly play well with it.

    As for the others, the answers range from “maybe” to “when we get to it”.

    Tevolria
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    I’d also add unchained monk to the list of things I’d love to see an archetype for; the introduction of style strikes that unchained monk has could be an very interesting concept to play on with initiating.

    yoursonray
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    Cryptic, Summoner, Vigilante, Ninja, Samurai, and of course Brawler all come to mind when I think of classes that could really mesh well with a fun path of war archetype. Same goes for Anti-paladin.

    Jade Ripley
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    Cryptic, Summoner, Vigilante, Ninja, Samurai, and of course Brawler all come to mind when I think of classes that could really mesh well with a fun path of war archetype. Same goes for Anti-paladin.

    In a related story, Anti-paladin, Summoner, Ninja, & Samurai are on the ‘never gonna happen’ list. Vigilante and Brawler have happened, as part of the Fool’s Errand playtest. Cryptic might and it might not; jury’s still out.

    yoursonray
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    Cryptic, Summoner, Vigilante, Ninja, Samurai, and of course Brawler all come to mind when I think of classes that could really mesh well with a fun path of war archetype. Same goes for Anti-paladin.

    In a related story, Anti-paladin, Summoner, Ninja, & Samurai are on the ‘never gonna happen’ list. Vigilante and Brawler have happened, as part of the Fool’s Errand playtest. Cryptic might and it might not; jury’s still out.

    Awww…

    Well perhaps in the errata or another book there could be something that says that the ninja is okay to use with hidden blade? Maybe the same with knight disciple for anti-paladin(although I have no idea how that could work). Cryptic is such a neat class that I feel doesn’t get enough love. I am more than positive that a really freaky initiator archetype would help bring it to the forefront. Something else that is horror themed would be cool.

    papermonkeylord
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    I don’t see why DSP is unwilling to do antipaladin. It would be awesome for DM’s. However, in regards to the options DSP refuses to do, I’ve found some solid homebrew attempts that a DM could steal if they wanted.

    Lead Hyena Discipline and Antipaladin Archetype

    Bloodrager Archetype

    papermonkeylord
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    And a very rough POW magus.

    yoursonray
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    And a very rough POW magus.

    Jeez, the person that replied in that topic is spot on. What were they thinking? They probably should look to the other 6th level caster templates in order to get a better understanding of the balance point they are trying to achieve. So many strange decisions that it is baffling to be honest. I believe if someone were to make a magus it should be built in a way to easily go into something along the lines of the bladecaster prc kind like how imo the warpriest does for battle templar.

    Patrick Kelley
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    Magus isn’t going to happen. We tried, at length, and it’s just not gonna be a thing. Bloodrager is also unlikely to happen, and much the same can be said for Spiritualist, Mesmerist, and Skald; for the last three, this is a case of them being rather firmly spellcasters, with chassis that neither encourage initiating nor particularly play well with it.

    As for the others, the answers range from “maybe” to “when we get to it”.

    I’ve always kind of loved reading the thoughts from content creators on why things do or do-not work.

    Robin MacLachlan
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    Heh, Magus was actually the first existing-class archetype that I did when I did my adaptation of stances and maneuvers. Kind of apples and oranges, though–I completely reworked the base mechanic, making it more a fighting-game stance system and not at all Vancian, and have subsequently adapted Path of War to what I’d done before it rather than vice versa.

    Jade Ripley
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    I don’t see why DSP is unwilling to do antipaladin. It would be awesome for DM’s. However, in regards to the options DSP refuses to do, I’ve found some solid homebrew attempts that a DM could steal if they wanted.

    Lead Hyena Discipline and Antipaladin Archetype

    Bloodrager Archetype

    Well, the idea that it would be awesome “for DMs” is part of it. Another part of it is that writing an initiating antipaladin would leave so little of the base left that it would be easier and cleaner as a new class, and yet another part of it is that antipaladin is just straight-up a bad concept that needed careful examination it did not get before it ever saw the light of day. But, honestly, the biggest part of it is a total lack of interest on the part of the team in touching it. You can lead a writer to a request but you can’t make him design it.

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